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Ron Jeremy
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Date:
Mon, 02 Jul 2001 16:59:29 -0700
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Re: [idm] "rap"
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quoted 3 lines From: ugly and mean <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com>>From: ugly and mean <ugly_and_mean@yahoo.com> > >Yeah, it's the JOB of the people on this list to impress you.
It doesn't seem too off-topic for this list for someone to ask for a recommendation. It's not like you are obligated too.
quoted 3 lines Let's all>Let's all >send Dan John our classic hip hop vinyl in hopes that he won't dislike >black music/culture anymore.
So if one would say that they didn't like rock would that mean they dislike white culture. I think Black people have influenced and created many other styles other than hip hop. Just because someone doesn't like commercial hip hop doesn't make them racist. And hip hop isn't the absolute expression for black culture, it's just one part of it.
quoted 4 lines I usually enjoy useless conversations on this list, but this one has got>I usually enjoy useless conversations on this list, but this one has got >to end. This guy is obviously an angry white man with a chip on his >shoulder, and nothing positive that anyone says about hip hop is going to >change his attitude.
Just because someone doesn't have positive statements about the current state of hip hop...or what is being played in mainstream media doesn't mean it isn't worthy of discussion.
quoted 3 lines I kill-filtered that Ron Jeremy clown a long time>I kill-filtered that Ron Jeremy clown a long time >ago, but still have to read his ass-flake statements through replies from >other people, and now the same is going to happen with this clown.
Name calling. how mature. hahahahaha
quoted 10 lines Anyone>Anyone >that starts a statement with "I'm not racist or anything..." and then >unleashes a torrent of racial stereotypes that would make Jimmy the Greek >blush, is not going to become a changed man just because a person with >good intentions posted a list of great classic hip hop for him to listen >to. I don't have a problem with off-topic threads, but this one is >reminding me of a situation I've been in way too many times in my life: >being in a room with a bunch of spineless white people, where there is no >chance of a black person hearing them, and trying to ignore their ignorant >condemnations of a culture they couldn't possibly understand.
I thought it was the hip hop tunes themselves that were reinforcing the stereotypes. You aren't stereotyping by saying "spineless white people" are you?
quoted 6 lines If nothing else, it just reminds me that in order to receive news and>If nothing else, it just reminds me that in order to receive news and >reviews on a kind of music I'm currently into; I have to be a part of a >scene/email list that praises the talents of wack white producers that do >everything possible to take the soul and blackness out of hip hop, and >trying to call it "progressive". and all this on a list that has the >audacity to call itself "intelligent".
Again I don't really care the color of the musician. I don't know if IDM is the list if you are looking for soul and blackness. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org